Isn’t it ironic how Mercury retrograde usually stirs up all sorts of chaos, yet here we are talking about celebrities stuck in their own personal cosmic loops—trying and trying to claw their way back into relevance like a bad soap opera that just won’t quit. The r/AskReddit gang recently threw down a spicy question: which celebrities keep launching comebacks destined to land in the “meh” zone instead of the “legend” hall? From Kardashian drama that never really goes out of style to some unexpected names whose star power has dimmed faster than a Venus in Scorpio romance, the thread is equal parts hilarious and painfully true. It begs the question—are some of these fame-battlers just victims of the stars, or is it time to accept some roles have their final curtain call? Either way, the answers deliver that brutal honesty we all secretly crave on a cosmic scale.

On the r/AskReddit sub, one person asked users, “What celebrity keeps trying to make a comeback but will never be as relevant as they once were?” From the Kardashian clan to Kevin Spacey, here are some of the best responses.

Note: Some of these responses have been edited and condensed for clarity. 

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